9 to 5 Faith Podcast: Episode 11

Paige C. Clark 00:18
Welcome everyone to Episode 11 Of the Nine to five faith podcast. I am so excited to introduce you to Dr. Tony Krohn on the podcast today as we talk about health and wellness and what it is like to run a business in today’s world and keep God at the center. Hello, Hello, everyone. Welcome to this episode here with Dr. Anthony Krohn. I feel so official calling you that, Anthony. How the heck are ya?

Tony Krohn 00:48
It’s just Anthony; we can just it works just fine. That’s what people call me. Or they call me Tony in practice, so either Won’t

Paige C. Clark 00:57
he? Oh, I should have asked that. I was like thinking like, what’s the short for Anthony? I did not put that together, and my brain.

Tony Krohn 01:07
Yeah, everyone’s like, are you Italian? I’m like, No. Like German and Irish. So no, my mom just like the name Anthony. Yeah, Tony is perfect. Anthony’s perfect. We can get the doctor out.

Paige C. Clark 01:20
Yeah, I agree. I like formalities. But also, you worked your butt off to get that doctor. So I always like to respect that at the beginning, for sure.

Tony Krohn 01:31
I appreciate that. Yeah, it was a grind. And it definitely got me to where I am today.

Paige C. Clark 01:36
For sure. Yes. That’s awesome. So where are you? Like? Let’s talk about that. Where are you? Where the heck are ya.

Tony Krohn 01:42
So I am in Nashville, Tennessee. I, which we’ll get into the conversation. I was working in Spring Hill. So I’ve lived here for the past three years at a job as an associate chiropractor down in Spring Hill at a private practice. So I was making the 30-minute commute south and then decided to move from Nashville to Franklin, which cut it to a 10-minute drive. And then I’m a city kid; I missed downtown Nashville. Even though I grew up in a town of about 1600 people in Nebraska. Maybe that’s why I love the city so much because I had to drive an hour for a Walmart. And we just had fast food. We had no Applebees or stoplights or anything. So I think I’m just, like, absorbing the big, big-ish city life. So I’m up in Nashville now.

Paige C. Clark 02:43
Very exciting. Very exciting. And you said you were an associate chiropractor at an office? What’s the situation now?

Tony Krohn 02:52
Yeah, so I’m sure by the time this airs out, I will be all in on my own chiropractic practice. So I even like coming out a chiropractor in chiropractic school; you have three options you can associate and work under someone, you can rent out a space from someone, or you can start your own. I had absolutely no desire to start my own practice. Because as like, I have high six figures in debt. I don’t know what I’m doing. I want someone to show me the ropes. So I was like, I’m going to work under someone else’s name and soak in as much information. So by the time that I’m ready to open my own practice, I know what I’m doing. So about a year ago, a little less than that. I just felt the push and the stir from the Lord to finally go off, go off on your own, make the leap. So this would have been towards the end of last year. And then I sat down with my boss and of the year, and I just said, hey, it’s time for me to go on my own. I appreciate everything that we’ve done. And it’s been a very smooth transition. No animosity, no hard feelings. Obviously, they want to keep me there, and I want to stay with my patients down in Spring Hill. But I felt a bigger push and a bigger calling to what my new practice is going to be. So yeah, I am a business owner of Chrome.

Paige C. Clark 04:22
Yeah, that’s so exciting and awesome, man, by the way.

Tony Krohn 04:25
Thank you. Yeah, yeah, we’re just kind of combining a bunch of different stuff, so then I can have all the tools to help whoever walks through my door, so yeah.

Paige C. Clark 04:36
So I totally agree with the whole not wanting to go out on your own thing. I always like said I would never do that. And you know, here I am kind of doing exactly that. How did you broach that conversation with your boss?

Tony Krohn 04:51
So I am someone who does not like to have a difficult conversation. I do not like calm rotation. That’s, I mean, that’s been my whole life. And there’s a lot of, like, reasons behind that. But my boss sensed something. I think I’m pretty good about not showing emotion and kind of coming off as if I have it all together, and everything’s fine. And he started to sense that I had a little bit of that push. But yeah, I mean, ultimately, I knew, I knew it had to happen. And I sat down with him at the end of the year shaking, super nervous, and kind of teared up a little bit. Because I mean, that’s me saying that this is the end of what we’ve been doing for the past three years. So very bittersweet. Very, very nerve-wracking. Because I mean, at that moment, it’s reality. You say, Okay, I’m on my way out. And there’s no.

Paige C. Clark 06:01
taking that back.

Tony Krohn 06:03
There’s, I mean, there’s, yeah, you can take it back and change your mind. But I’m like, no, like, I’m fully trusting the Lord. And he has a bigger call for me. So after, like, everyone says, once you have like the conversation, you won’t regret it like you just ever, to a degree, has those nerves going into it? And then after you have it, you’re like, Okay, that wasn’t so bad.

Paige C. Clark 06:30
Time to take a deep breath. You just feel like this weight lifted off of you.

Tony Krohn 06:33
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. No, so that conversation was really good. Ultimately, I want to practice a little bit differently. And to respect his business and what he’s built for the past 17 years. It’s just it was the right thing to do.

Paige C. Clark 06:51
Yeah. And, and I think you’re highlighting like a really important point there is like, not only do you envision something different for yourself, and you’re not, you’re not stepping away, just so that you can build your own thing, but you’re stepping away to honor what he’s built. And it’s heat, right. Yep. Yep. What he’s built-in and the vision he had, I’ve never really thought about it like that. But, I think that’s, like, really cool.

Tony Krohn 07:22
Yeah, yeah. Because there’s, I mean, I guess I’ll kind of get into it. Now, you probably have the question come in. But, I have noticed in my past three years there the adjustment is amazing. I get it helps so many people. But it’s only one piece of the equation; there’s so much else that the person needs to fix whatever they’re coming in with, whether it’s some soft tissue work, whether it’s some exercises to do at home, I’ve found that it goes even deeper than that, whether it’s like nutrition support, or, again, even deeper than that. There are emotional levels that, whether it happened to us in the past, or there’s some sort of stressor in our life that’s causing our body to have this, we’ll call it chaos or this dysfunction going on. I started to pick up on those little tendencies with the patients, and I’m like, Okay, there’s something to this, like, yes, we’re getting them probably 90% better with what we’re doing. But I know, and I sense that there’s something deeper that if they have the comfort and ability to address not necessarily the elephant, the hiding elephant in the room, I guess the breakthroughs gonna happen with their healing. So I’m just like I; I’m an empath; I connect with people a little bit deeper, like the things that some of my patients have shared with me. They don’t tell you about this in chiropractic school or really anything; they don’t prepare you and say that patients are going to come in and either have the best day ever or they just found out that their spouse is leaving them. And, like, I don’t know if it says it on my face. Right now, I have a mustache; they’ll probably, but I mean, the things that they share with me, I’m like, wow, okay, I have an obligation to my patient to get them to the right person to help that or just be there for them to be that open air because that’s part of healing also is sharing the deep dirty stuff, within reason, of course, to bring about that healing and the tears, the relief after they’re able to share that and get that off their chest has been really powerful and just that level of trust that they have. Obviously, patient confidentiality is number one for me. So they know, and I reiterate, I’m like, thank you so much for sharing, like, none of this leaves these four walls like I, I’ll be praying for you. If that’s like, if I know that they’re walking with the Lord hit, they’re not walking with the Lord, I’m still gonna pray for him. But yeah, it’s just an opportunity to bring in so much more healing than what say you Google a chiropractor and what it says on Google,

Paige C. Clark 10:33
right? Yeah, oh, my gosh, you have me like wanting to, like chomping at the bit to go so many different ways with this because, like, I love this stuff. And I’ve said for so many years, just like in my little, you know, boonies and of Arizona, I’m like, there needs to be a doctor where you can go to one doctor’s office and get everything taken care of; I’m so tired of running to eight different offices for one problem, like,

Tony Krohn 10:59
yeah. It’s so unfortunate how the system is set up that way; you go to the doctor, and they send you over to a different specialty, and they send you a different specialty, and there’s no communication going on. And I think, and a lot of my colleagues also say that, like, chiropractic has the opportunity to be that gatekeeper. Because traditional medical doctors, family physicians, don’t have the training and like musculoskeletal complaints, they have the like, sickness model the medication down, but they weren’t taught these like diagnoses and the treatment for like a nonpharmacological route. And so our knowledge background and our education, like we had to learn so many different systems. So then, if a patient comes in with something that’s glaring, like, they cannot be adjusted, then then we know, like, yeah, they need to go to this person. So it’s a really cool opportunity to meet the patient where they’re at and kind of help them navigate or go to the right provider if they’re not, right. That’s right. I

Paige C. Clark 12:16
have a lot of friends who are like, it’s not health care, it’s sick care. And I’m like, Hey, Ain’t that the truth? They’re not moving you towards health. They’re only moving you when you’re sick, you know, rather than kind of your ability to have a better like health span in your life. Oh, go ahead. No, go ahead.

Tony Krohn 12:36
No, I, I resonate with that so much. It’s my stepdad. So he’s a family physician. And I mean, bless his heart, like he has been practicing for maybe 30 years. I don’t know exactly. But it’s just they’re only taught. They only know what they’re taught. And so yes, there is a sense of responsibility that you have to keep up with today and what’s required of today. But, like, they, they only know so much. And they’re amazing for the right time in place. Like if I break, right, absolutely. I’m not going to the chiropractor, to the doctor. But if I have, like, sniffles or if I have like some, just like viral stuff going on. I don’t. I mean, I used to like to want to jump to antibiotics and all this medication, but our body is so much smarter. And God knew exactly what he was doing. He knew that we needed some sort of antiviral or medication that was just going to mask the symptoms. Like there’s so much more, and we don’t have to, we go down that sick care route. Like there are so many other options for us.

Paige C. Clark 13:51
Yeah, have you read the book, The Body Keeps the Score? Yeah. saying, like, the body holds on to different emotions. I was just like, flashing through that in my head. It’s a dense read for whoever’s listening; if you can, like, if you like reading a textbook, that’s practically what it is. But, like what you were hitting on, our body stores our emotions in different ways. And like your regular, you know, doctor’s visit, or even chiropractic vis, it, like doesn’t allow you to really identify like, oh, maybe I’m holding on to trauma from when I was a child and is manifesting in this way in my body. So when you’re saying that, I was like, Yes, I get so excited about this stuff, too. Yeah,

Tony Krohn 14:39
that book is so good. And it’s definitely not one that you pick up off the shelf, and you’re like, Oh, I’m gonna start this book. Like it looks. It’s some cool colors on the cover. And now it’s like, you’re actually learning like medical terms and all this stuff. And it’s. Yeah, it took me a long time to go through it, and just like it’s, so it’s so much good information. And so true.

Paige C. Clark 15:01
Yeah. And you hit on another point too, which is actually really funny because one of the books that I’m writing right now is all about physical touch, and you hit on something of, like, people just spill their guts to me. And I was like, oh, yeah, chiropractors too, because my hairdresser, I was telling her about this book, and she goes, people sit in my chair and just tell me their entire life. And I’m like, yeah, and she’s who else can? Who else in the day touches you for two hours during your appointment? Hair appointment my hair appointments are clearly two hours, but you know what I mean? And so what you were saying was that I was like, oh, yeah, chiropractors, so it’s good to know people spill their guts to chiropractors to

Tony Krohn 15:44
that, and then also tattoo artists. They’re like, a glorified therapist like my tattoo artists know my entire life. Yeah. So ya know, it’s just, it’s funny, like,

Paige C. Clark 15:55
because they’re touching, too. It’s not even just like talking. You’re there

Tony Krohn 15:59
for four or five hours, you might as well just get to know him.

Paige C. Clark 16:04
Yeah, spill your guts and share your life. So, in this, you know, future actually, it’ll probably be the more present practice that you’re going to be running. Where does God show up in all of this for you?

Tony Krohn 16:20
Yeah, so I think the biggest thing is knowing and using my, like, my spiritual gifts to the, to the best of my ability, so I’m, I’m not sitting in my office with my patients, preaching the gospel over and, and like, opening up the Bible and having a Bible study with them now, if they want to do that, absolutely. But I’m using more of, like, my compassion and my healing, and just my, like, calm presence, to give them a glimpse of what a Christ follower looks like. So that’s kind of like my portrayal of, like, how I can be the hands and feet of the Lord is just to, like, meet, meet the patient where they are, and, and not like, be preachy or pushy to them. I’m just, I’m being myself. Then as far as, like, other ways that, like, God shows up and like patients understand that like, he’s a part of my life and my job like something as simple as just like, playing Christian music. In the treatment room, I get control of what music has played. So I always go with something very acoustic or light. And it

Paige C. Clark 17:52
Hobby Lobby status. Yeah, absolutely. Christian music of acoustics just plays while you’re walking. The halls are

Tony Krohn 17:59
so peaceful. Yeah, I’ve always been someone who isn’t, isn’t the pushy, pushy person. So I just, I want them to know that, like, yes, we have one job in mind is to get you out of pain. And, for that matter, like get you out of pain fast. There’s so much more that goes into that piece. But if I like to start to pick up, then they start asking, or even if it’s like, what do you do this weekend? And they mentioned, I was at church, I was like, oh, what church? Do you go to just, like, little things to slowly ease into the conversation? Because it’s, you never know who’s on your table, if it’s going to be boring, low, full-blown Christian, or if it’s going to be someone who’s new to the faith, he’s very intimidated, or someone who doesn’t believe at all. So it’s like, there’s some sort of respect that you gotta have for the patient to not push them.

Paige C. Clark 18:59
away. Yeah. Yeah. And how do you kind of straddle that line of like, you know, we’re called to be bold in our faith, but we’re also called to walk alongside people. So like, I think people hear those terms and think of, like, two ends of a spectrum. Right? Like, how do you kind of like find that middle balance, if at all?

Tony Krohn 19:23
That’s, that’s really tough every day. I think since I have the pleasure of getting to see patients multiple times. I have the ability to develop that rapport with them, and Mike, start to kind of introduce that topic. Some of my questions are not like being manipulative at all, but I do want to kind of get to know where they are in their spiritual journey. Because part of my practice is that I want to be able to pray for them. Um, and help them a little bit deeper. So if it’s, I mean, for example, I had a patient come in, she was 39 weeks pregnant, I’ve been with them through her whole pregnancy, I knew that there were there Christians. They’re having some complications around 39 weeks, which is a scary time, and I just, I felt the Lord during that appointment; he’s like, you gotta pray for him. Like, in this, this was still at the old office, and I don’t regret this at all. I, it took me probably like, 10 minutes, because as I was doing treatment, and I was like, two years ago, I would have just like, shut that door, I wouldn’t have been honored that and, like, being able to pray for them and like, show them I’m not just someone in a white coat even though I don’t wear a white coat. That that I care and like actually want to help that like that. One, it just like really filled me up. And I felt like, in a way, like that Jesus pat on the back, like, Thank you for, like, honoring me, like choosing to pray. But also their like comfort and like the situation like, obviously first-time mom, parents, and something’s going wrong and just like to know that like other people other than your family or close friends have hadyour back. That’s, that’s just a cool, cool opportunity. Now, do I pray for every patient while they’re there on the table? No. Is it something I’m going to explore? Absolutely. But it’s also that fine line between being bold or walking alongside them? It’s, it’s definitely a developed kind of that intuition. Like, are they ready to have me pray over them? Or is it still like, they’re kind of dipping their toes in the water? And I’m not ready to push them all the way and yet kind of thing?

Paige C. Clark 22:00
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And I think to like, at least being in the like healthcare industry, right. Like, I mean, depending on kind of your faith, kind of upbringing, some of the physical manifestations of pain and illness could be not Christ. Like, you know, it could be demonic. It could be something, you know, evil manifesting in their body. Like going back to what we were saying, like, hey, my body holds on to trauma these ways, right? Like, that was a past, you know, injustice against you, a past trauma against you. And that’s how your body’s still holding on to it. So, all these things are so interconnected. Oh, my gosh, isn’t that wonderful?

Tony Krohn 22:43
The body is so, like, intricately designed and, like, so complicated, but that, like, fuels me, it’s like, I want to learn more and more.

Paige C. Clark 22:53
Yeah. Yeah. I think I think it’s funny that, like people, a lot of you know, scientists are rather agnostic or atheist. And I’m like, do you see what is in front of you? Do you see what it is like, what the body can do? What can nature do? Like, how is that possible?

Tony Krohn 23:15
Yeah, I was just listening to a podcast. So Dr. Daniel Amon is a psychiatrist. He just wrote a book. But he, being a psychiatrist, and even in the medical community there, he’s a he’s strong Christian. And he talks about, like, having that spiritual component and part of your healing. And some of, like, his colleagues and scientists are like, Why are you pushing Jesus? Like, Why are you pushing the Lord? And He likes, straight up says, he’s like, how can you like, avoid this or not believe in this, like, say the healings that happen in miracles that happen? How do you explain that? So it’s so true, like the yeah, there’s, it’s just hard to believe that some people just haven’t.

Paige C. Clark 24:00
And gods are ultimate healers. So it would make sense. I was I was just fishing around on my desk because I have this book. This is another beefy book, but it’s the body of a guide for occupants. And it is so good. It’s not necessarily Christian or faith-based in nature. But it goes through all the body systems. Like it starts with, like, on a cellular level, and like, you’re just reading this, you’re like, Yeah, I don’t like dang that, like the book. Like the body is so cool. And God is so cool for designing this, and like, it didn’t just happen one day, right, like it was intelligently designed.

Tony Krohn 24:40
Oh my gosh, yeah. Okay,

Paige C. Clark 24:43
so let’s shift gears a little bit because I could like nerd out over this stuff all the time, all day long. So, you talked a little bit about, like, what practicing your faith in the workplace looks like. What about practicing your faith outside the workplace? How do you make Make sure you, you know, leave space for, you know, your church community and for, you know, developing disciples and all that good stuff.

Tony Krohn 25:10
Yeah, so it’s actually funny you, we talked about this; our church just had a sermon on Mary and Martha. So I tend to be more of the male version of a Martha; I’m very, like, I wouldn’t say I’m very like OCD, like schedule, like have a routine. But I do like to have a pretty solid routine where I’m going to bed at the same time, close to 8am. Every night, I wake up really early because then that’s given me the opportunity to spend some time in the world. So our church does a daily devotional. So there’s a reading, and then they have videos to do a soap method, soap method, which they talk about. So it’s the Scripture, you observe it, you apply it, and then you it’s prayer. So that’s something I do in the morning. The Jesus Calling is, it’s just a way to spend more time with the Lord. And it’s since I’m up by five every morning, like my roommate, he isn’t up until seven. So it’s just my quiet time to either put on a podcast or a sermon series and slowly make my coffee, make my breakfast slowly get ready in the morning; I’m spent; I’m using those few hours just spending time. And whatever, whatever it is, whatever I can to, to just soak in what the Lord has for you, whether it’s listening in worship, music, or you name it. That’s, that’s kind of my mornings; when I was driving to Spring Hill, that was a 30-minute drive each way. So really good opportunity, again, to listen to podcasts, listen to music, or call a friend who I haven’t talked to in a while. So filling that space with productive, meaningful time. And then, I mean, the weekends, Sunday mornings, I’m serving at church going to church. So I’m doing, on paper, a lot of stuff. And I’m trying to have that healthy balance of making sure I’m investing in my faith to walk my journey, but it’s not going through the motions. So that’s been it’s, it tends to be a struggle for people who have that like a rigid schedule to where everything’s kind of mapped out in the day, and they’re just going through the motions. So I’m trying to be a little bit more loose with that, too. If something takes a little bit longer, or I don’t get to it, I’m not like beating myself up over it. I’m just making sure that I’m, I’m being intentional with everything that I’m doing each day.

Paige C. Clark 28:04
Yeah, I need to get some real spontaneity on this podcast. Because everyone I’ve been talking to has no shame because I’m like this too. It’s like I have a schedule. I put my Jesus time in my schedule. And I’m like, Yes, like that is the ideal goal. And that’s how I would like ideally operate. But, like, it’s a lot of us, but I’m also like, is it? Is it so much so that we’re all like that? Or is it just like, this is just an underrated way to follow Jesus. And like, in a very practical way, this is what your day could look like by putting in a calendar invite for your quiet time.

Tony Krohn 28:41
Yeah, I think I wonder that all the time, too. And I think there is a not to like bluntly call people out, but I think there are just some, like laziness and people. It’s like, can you.

Paige C. Clark 28:56
help people out? I’m here for it. Absolutely

Tony Krohn 28:58
perfect. Wake up, wake up 10 minutes earlier, like, it’s not that hard to wake up a little bit, or you’re in the car if you’re on a podcast, like there are so many different like ways to switch up your routine, like, shoot, are you getting ready in the morning and you’re scrolling Instagram or right when you wake up? Do you grab your phone and go straight to social media? That’s so bad for your health because you’re getting that blue light from the screen. You’re not slowly adjusting your eyes. But as you’re slowly waking up, like throwing some Christian music or saying a prayer when you go to bed, like put the phone somewhere completely away from your bed, turn off the TV, say a prayer, practice gratitude journaling, whatever it looks like people like to overcomplicate it, and make the excuse that there’s no time. But if you’re really being honest, Save yourself you have; all it takes is two seconds to say thank you, Lord. And it can’t be like that. Like, it doesn’t have to be this drawn out. I’m spending two hours reading five chapters of the Bible and journaling and brushing my teeth while Michael Smith is playing, or it doesn’t have to be like, it’s everyone’s walk looks different. But honestly, I have to do something every day. Yeah. Otherwise, it’s just like it’s Yeah. Yeah.

Paige C. Clark 30:33
And I think too, like, again, like our culture tends to like to cling on to the extremes, right? And so, like, we see the extreme of like, Oh, I do this every single day. And then there’s the other extreme of, like, don’t be so legalistic. You don’t have to do it every single day; there’s a happy place in the middle of, like, setting up these routines for yourself. And then, guess what? If one day doesn’t happen, that’s okay. But it’s like building the blocks of your faith to be able to support your walk with Christ. Absolutely. And yeah, no, go ahead. Go ahead.

Tony Krohn 31:10
Yeah, I mean, I was just reiterating my point that I said earlier, like, if you’re being honest with yourself, you have a couple minutes in the day to do something that’s going to better your faith, even if it’s like, like I said, my, my practice, I’m not preaching the word, but I’m being that empathetic that that servant in the office, and it doesn’t have to be this grand, like, plan that you talked about, it’s as easy as like, telling someone to have a good day smiling at them or it’s just being a good person also looks like being a faithful servant of Jesus. So

Paige C. Clark 31:53
yeah, yeah, for sure. And like, I’ll say those little like nuggets, breadcrumbs that you leave throughout your day as they stick with other people. For example, when I was a kid, my mom would always blast F F H. If you are a 90s kid, do you know who that is? If you’re not a 90s kid, Google it, but she would always bless it as Christian worship, and when she cleaned like that was her thing, she would like private on loud, claiming the entire house and just blasting, you know, Christian music while she cleaned and you know, I core memory like that is stuck in there. Of like, just a really easy basic way now she also listened to Dr. Laura. Any other 90s children will remember Dr. Laura in the pickup line, and now I can say the entire Dr. Laura intro. I like that stuff that sticks with you. So whether it’s Dr. Laura or worship music, it sticks with you, and I wasn’t even the one doing it. It was my mother. So it also impacts the people around you. 100% Yeah. And same with a Christian, like it’s like these passive, it’s like subliminal messaging almost, like ways of like, just bread crumb like, dude, like you’re here all the ways I have Jesus in my life. Yeah. Oh my gosh, yeah. Playing the worship music over the music. My hairdresser used to do that as well. And she actually sold the salon. Then the first thing we did, the new owners, was take away the Christian music. And it was noticed; it was crazy. Like a lot of the clients ended up noticing. I was like, Huh, that’s, you know, that’s good to know. Yeah.

Tony Krohn 33:44
I mean, just another good conversation piece too, like, are learning that the client like picked up on that, like, that’s an easy opportunity to continue that conversation?

Paige C. Clark 33:55
Yeah, for sure. So, I, I love, and I also hate this question. Because one of the things that I like to highlight, especially again, is we’re a culture of extremes and like, you know, everyone thinks that, like, oh, Christians, I have it all together. No, we don’t. We are broken and flawed. So I always like to just touch on. What’s something that you struggle with, with your faith walk? What’s your biggest struggle when it comes to practicing your faith? In the day-to-day?

Tony Krohn 34:29
Yeah, so I grew up Catholic. And I, like, I’m so thankful for having that background and going to a Catholic grade school. And then, like, still practicing, to some degree, my Catholic faith, but recently, like, last year, I just got baptized. I had a lot of, like, personal stuff going on, and we won’t get into those details right now. Um, but in all those trials, as the Bible says, like, even in difficult times, like, Give thanks to the Lord. And it’s like in these hard moments, like how can you even, like, battle through to still, like, thank the Lord, and he’s entrusting him that he’s still going to be there like to get you through it. So that was, like, the biggest thing because during that time, like, I was going to nondenominational services and like, started learning more and started questioning, like, a lot of the stuff that I’ve learned as a Catholic, so that, like, I think the freedom and the thing of the word, I’m looking like the authenticity of like breaking down that denominational barrier. And this isn’t to say that one denomination has been right, or anything like that, like I started to, like, have more of an authentic relationship with the Lord. And like I desired it more. It wasn’t just going through the motions, which kind of has that Catholic stigma, the stand, kneel, says this prayer.

Paige C. Clark 36:22
Yeah. So the rituals that go, Yeah,

Tony Krohn 36:27
yeah, so when I got baptized, my friend who baptized me, he’s like, now that you’re following closer with the Lord, like, the target on your back from the devil is so much bigger now. And man is that, like, so true. Like all these like, little things, whether it’s going through the motions with some of my stuff, as I catch myself each day, like going through some of those motions. I also have a part-time job working in the service industry in Nashville. So I’m around a lot of, like, really pretty girls and a lot of alcohol. And so, like, there’s all of these temptations that if I don’t stay close to the Lord and following his path, like, I’m not completely separating myself from that, because we’re also like, called to be around people different than us, pass judgment on those people and still love them. But, like, just continuing to have that faith that I’m not going to revert back to what old Tony would do. Go out to the bars with them. Just make really bad decisions. So I think, and unfortunately, Nashville, there are two different types. So there are people it’s the Bible Belt, so people love the Lord, and they are very devoted. And there’s a lot of people who are here to be seen. So they’re their walk with the Lord is Sunday, and that’s it. So also trying not to get caught up in that, yeah, I want to be seen, and I want to make a name for myself. Like there’s just all of these different pressures and temptations that satan is literally shooting at your back to try and pull you away from the Lord. So yeah, I mean, if I just like it went five different directions. Okay. Yeah, it’s so true, like you, you really have to have on, like, your armor like our talks about like you you got to be ready. And if your mind starts to wander, you got to like call it call it out. Call it where it is like saying this is not me anymore. Like you do not have this stronghold over my life. So yeah, I think that’s been that’s been a big one. And then in that hard time, like a really, really difficult relationship last. So as a young, single male, and then this not, this is no way to like to pick up my inbox flooded with girls,

Paige C. Clark 39:45
but you will have his DMS available. Just kidding.

Tony Krohn 39:50
It’s like,

Paige C. Clark 39:51
there’s

Tony Krohn 39:53
internal pressure on myself too, like, as I’m approaching 30, I’m like I had this grand design for my life. Like, yeah, he married by this time I’m gonna start having kids, and it’s like breaking down that barrier like you, there’s no rush in this at all, even though you would like to have it pan out and like have someone to walk with like, you, you easily could like, just with how many people moved to Nashville. But if the Lord doesn’t put that person in your life like you’re just jumping into to law that like it’s, it’s gonna blow up if you’re not being sure that it’s what the Lord has called you to so yeah,

Paige C. Clark 40:36
yeah, for sure. And don’t lose hope. My husband was 32 when we got married, so hang in there, but I’m such a matchmaker, though. I’m like, I love to love, and everyone’s experience love but back to Jesus, what that that like, really is like sitting with me is a struggle of like that. As Christians, we are called to be thankful to God II despite what is going on in our life and despite everything in the crap storm that might be happening. Whereas, like I was thinking okay, so like nonbelievers, they just like they have the freedom to like to curse the world and like hate everything and be in a really sour mood all the time. Whereas, like Christians, yes, like we, that probably happens. We’re not perfect, but despite all of that, we’re still called to be thankful for the Lord, and I think that, like, if you’re a nonbeliever listening to this, don’t let that scare you away, but I think that’s like a really powerful I think it’s a powerful marker to the heart and mind change that happens when you follow Christ.

Tony Krohn 42:00
Yeah, for sure, I would have never considered myself giving thanks for the trials over a year ago or even like being a Catholic like you; that just doesn’t pass into your head like, so it definitely like it shows your trust in the Lord that while he’s putting you through this trial, he’s gonna be there on the other side to help you out of it in the grass. I mean, the cliche, the grass is greener on the other side, but like really is true once you understand like, the Lord never wants anything terrible to happen to your life like he doesn’t desire it to happen, and you to like it fall away from him like he wants you all that much more to it to lean on him even in those difficult times. So I think, yeah, that that just shows like the maturity of the follower. When they can see that.

Paige C. Clark 43:05
Sorry, I was Googling a verse to be able to reference Psalm 23, Where I like even though I walked through the shadow of the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil where you are with me, and I think that that just shows a man that that’s the second time that’s come up today for me my Hannah works. I know that God is with you through everything. Oh gosh. Holy Spirit, help me, but I was quoting Isaiah 41 earlier today, and it was like, you know, the Lord is with you. And then this came to mind, but when we are in the valley, when we’re in the valleys, God is there with us, and he’s not like hanging out the mountain like hey, like that’s fine. Like, hey, see you later. Like see when you’re done, it’s he’s walking alongside us through it. And to think of the glory of God doing that with us. That’s something cool to sit on. That’s something cool to chew on. Yeah. I love it. All right, Tony. Let us finish off how I love to finish every episode. What is one thing that our listeners can do to implement a faith-building discipline or practice into their life this week? Like what is one actionable thing that they can take? A little nugget, little bread crumb, and go make? I don’t know what do you make with bread crumbs? Fried chicken?

Tony Krohn 44:47
I don’t know. Yeah. I was like, I haven’t had bread for so long. No, I So with this soaping method with our daily devotional with a church, they, they have like a gratitude section in the journal. So I am all about finding something; I do three, three, to six every day. Like, things to be grateful for. So even if it’s just one thing, like, there is one thing in your day that you can be thankful for, write it down, write it in your phone, say it out loud. And, like, Give thanks to Jesus that you, you had something good go for you today. I think that like not only is that powerful, and growing your trust in the Lord. But I mean, the research showing how it helps mental health, emotional health, changing that like energy and a body to be more positive and grateful. How that can affect body tissues and even pain and all these other physical things that are going on in the body. Like having that spirit of gratefulness and gratitude, like, super easy to do, and it’s just a good way for you to reflect on the day if you do it at the end or start the day off. Right now.

Paige C. Clark 46:21
That’s awesome. I was thinking we should probably have, like, keto beware like a Keto warning. Like, we’re talking about breadcrumbs here. When when I was growing up, we always had powwow holy cow. What’s that? Which, like pow, was something that, like, it’s kind of like a high low at the end of the day. Do you ever do like high lows where it was like What’s something good that happened? What was something bad that happened? But it’s, like, kind of a twist on that where it’s pow, holy cow. So it’s like, how was something bad that happened? Wow, with something good. That happened. And then the holy cow is like, how did you see God move in this in this day? So I love

Tony Krohn 47:01
that. Yeah, we call it happiness and crappies. Be one grabby Yep. Just as explicit as this podcast.

Paige C. Clark 47:14
I’ve said crap many times on this podcast because guess what? That’s real. And sometimes, I have no filter. A lot of the time, I have no filter.

Tony Krohn 47:25
I had a couple of curse words every now, and that is not going to send you to the gates of hell like it’s okay.

Paige C. Clark 47:31
Fun fact. You probably know this. But cursing is shown to relieve stress in a very physical way. It lowers blood pressure.

Tony Krohn 47:41
Yeah, yeah. I mean, do you need to get in the habit of it? Probably not.

Paige C. Clark 47:47
Hopefully, your blood pressure isn’t always as high as you need to get?

Tony Krohn 47:51
Oh my god. There’s something else going on that we gotta we got it.

Paige C. Clark 47:55
There’s an emotion stored somewhere in your body that needs to get let go in that in that situation. Yep. Well, Tony, thank you so much for joining us. Where can people find you? Or slide into your DMS?

Tony Krohn 48:11
Yeah, so, as I said, I’m in Nashville, Tennessee. I am starting my own practice. And so, if you’re local and you need a chiropractor, I would love to work with you. But the best place to reach me is my Instagram. I do have a professional Instagram account that’s just all lowercase, Dr. Tony Krohn. And then I do have a personal one, but we’ll just we’ll stick with the professional one because my personal one it’s, it’s a little more fun. It’s the unfiltered, frustrating world. So it’s not anything that’s like, very, not walking with the faith is I just like to kind of call things as they are on that one. So

Paige C. Clark 49:01
I have a friend who had a separate Twitter account that was under a different name. So she could just tweet at her at will and just call things out. And yeah, sometimes, sometimes that’s necessary. It’s just a

Tony Krohn 49:13
crazy world. And I like to just have fun with it and get people asking questions, but for the sake of this conversation,

Paige C. Clark 49:22
it’s linked in the bio are linked in the show notes as I will say, well, Anthony, thank you so much. And oh my gosh, I called you Anthony again. Oh, perfect.

Tony Krohn 49:32
I honestly will introduce people as Anthony at church. And then I’ll hear someone say Anthony and I, like they don’t respond right away. And then I’m like, oh, shoot, I did tell him my name is Anthony. So I’m Derek. How I introduce myself because it’s like, okay, all the legal documents, I’m Anthony but friends call me Tony, and I’m Tony on Instagram, and I’m just like, I created this.

Paige C. Clark 49:58
for my son, there’s a chiropractor that I follow, and his name’s Arnold. And so this whole time when I was getting ready to talk to you, I was like, Don’t call him Arnold Arnold, and here I am. Anthony. Tony, thank you so much for joining us. And we’ll catch you guys on the next episode.

Tony Krohn 50:19
Thank you for having me.

Paige C. Clark 50:21
Well, besides baffling his name a few times, Tony was the greatest guest I could possibly imagine. If you’re in the Nashville area, make sure to check out his practice, and we will see you guys on the next episode.

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